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Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Chris Kyle, the Lying Sociopath

Poster's Note: this post is over a year old now. I will not be publishing comments for it, good or bad, because it is over a year old now. If you wish to see my response to Chris Kyle's murder, feel free to see it here.

Ever heard of Chris Kyle?

If you have watch Faux News in the past couple of months, he made some minor headlines by claiming to have committed criminal assault against former Minnesota Governor Jessie Ventura.  He claimed to have knocked out the man in a bar after Mr. Kyle alleged to have heard him say that soldiers deserved to die (specifically it was SEALs or Green Berets, I can’t remember which).

All of these claims came out when Ventura himself was on the road to Mexico for the winter, as he has currently refused to fly commercial airliners due to the TSA’s love of groping his genitals.  This claim also coincided with Chris Kyle’s release of his ghost-written memoirs, American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History.

Jessie Ventura, as far as I know, was never given the proper chance to rebut this Chris Kyle’s claims, except on Alex Jones’ show, but I am certain that he is lying about the whole incident.  He probably did this in order to promote his book since Ventura has been in the limelight a few months before shouting about the injustice of the his civil case against the TSA.  He probably also did not like how a former SEAL reservist would be pointing out how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are misguided and wrong.  In any case, I am convinced that he was lying about the whole incident.

But what was more alarming about Chris Kyle is not so much his willingness to lie on national television in order to promote a book, but the contents of the book itself.  William N. Grigg did a good overview of the book on his own blog, so I am just going to sum it up in one word: sociopath.

Chris Kyle boasts about killing Iraqis, who he refers to as savages and evil, all the while saying he did so because it was his duty.  I suppose he would be a wonderful candidate for Milgram’s obedience test and I’m sure he would gladly throw the lethal switch for the subject and ask the instructor if there were more.

Kyle claims to have killed over 160 people as a sniper in Iraq, including women in front of their children, all in the name of saving American lives.  Now, I am not going to question the heat of combat and certainly anybody making aggressive actions against your compatriots gets what is coming.  It is not the people he killed that I find horrific so much as the fact that he does not regret any of it.  Most soldiers (and normal people in general) always regret the killings they have done, even if it was justified in self-defense or in the course of duty.  Most normal people seek to avoid killing people unless it is absolutely necessary.

I am reminded of that scene in Gran Torino where Walt Kowalski explains to Thao that he once killed a man in Korea who was unarmed and scared and how it has haunted him all his life.  This is the mark of true man: one who is willing to kill if necessary but does not hold it up as a virtue.  Chris Kyle reminds of a child playing a video game and expressing regret that he didn’t get the high score.

Chris Kyle’s manner reminds of Odysseus who boasted to total strangers of how he raided villages and raped women.  He is a man without a conscious and believes wholeheartedly in the moral authority of the State.

But what is most chilling of all is not his exploits in wartime nor his lack of guilt or shame in the deeds he did in the name of his “duty”, but the fact that he is currently training our police.  A man with an attitude that the enemy is evil or a bunch of savages will almost certainly translate this philosophy unto the people he is instructing.

Kyle represents everything that is wrong with our military and police force.  He believes in the virtues of the State, never questions the moral or ethical issues of what he does, nor does he appear to care either.  As long as he gets to kill people in the name of the almighty State, he is content to not question the reasons.  He is, in essence, the perfect soldier for the oligarchs who presume to be our gods.

Whether or not you support the wars in the past decade, you have to agree that this man is not someone you would let babysit your kids or hang out with at a bar.  And you definitely would not trust to be with him in a dark alley somewhere.

Unfortunately, I fully expect more people like Chris Kyle to come out of the woodwork and start promoting the virtues of murdering for the almighty State.  I have nothing but pity for these men who are so screwed up in the head that they cannot make any moral decisions on their own.  This is how the police state grows: through the tireless work of sociopaths like Chris Kyle.

12 comments:

  1. Please read "On Killing" and "On Combat"...then maybe you'd have some small idea of what these guys/gals go through. Until then you're just another ignorant blow hard. Or you can join the military, pick up a weapon and defend your brothers/sisters and this country.

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    1. You're right, I usually don't know what these men and women go through. However, most soldiers are unwilling to discuss their combat experience as it is a hard to kill someone, even when you are justified in doing so. I once interviewed a Vietnam veteran for a school project and he told me flat out that he will not discuss combat situations. He told me everything else, but would not talk about combat.

      I gave Mr. Kyle some leeway on his combat situations. I fully understand that in combat you have to make do or die decisions, often resulting in the death of others. Mr. Kyle, however, delights in boasting about the men and women he's killed, calling them savages. He's a lying sociopath pure and simple. He lied about assaulting Jessie Ventura and he has no qualms bragging about shooting women in front of their children.

      Lastly, going to foreign land overseas to fight an enemy that doesn't have a navy to speak off is not defending this country. Perhaps you failed geography because last I checked, Iraq doesn't border our country and wasn't amassing a military force to be used against us or even Israel. If our leaders cared so much about defending this nation, they'd have the troops on the Mexican border. Yes, I am well aware that this flies in the face of well-established law, but ever since the NDAA was passed, it looks like troops can be used for domestic purposes now.

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  2. You obviously didn't read the book you ignorant scumbag. "Shooting women"??? He shot A woman that was about to throw a grenade at a group of Marines. Get your facts straight before you start telling lies of your own.

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    1. Whoever you are, you're a laughable joke. You've clung on to the most irrelevant detail of the whole blog and think that this makes my account less factual.

      The fact remains: Chris Kyle is a liar and a sociopath. He lied about punching Jesse Ventura and he has no qualms about boasting about his kills. No sign of PTSD with this guy, which makes him dangerous and wicked.

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    2. You are a left wing pussy who doesn't have the balls to even be in the region, let alone stand up for fellow members of the armed forces and for the citizens of our country. Those who have served in this capacity realize that it HAS to be done. WE are the great evil and their poor "women and children" wouldn't hesitate to pop a few rounds in our heads. I tell you what, sign up for a tour before your criticize anyone who has done so. You are pathetic. When you are in that situation you have two choices, kill. . . or be killed. I choose the former. "Oh no, he shot a Jihadist Muslim" THey ARE savages. THey DO want us to die. We are Satan to them. Study some religion. . . then grow some balls. He's not a sociopath. It's quite simple. It's your job, and you either do it, or die. You gotta flip the switch in your mind, shut it off as best as you can, but I promise, he like me has a lot of nights waking up in cold sweats rehashing what happened.

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  3. John Irving, former ODA team member 3rd Special Forces GroupAugust 7, 2012 at 5:06 AM

    I fully accept the fact that it is your right to attack Chris Kyle while not providing your own identity but do you not think it is a bit spineless? I absolutely think you should give Mr Kyle a call, tell him who you are and provide the feedback you have presented here. Also it is a bit interesting that a computer programmer has the knowledge to diagnose Mr Kyle both as a sociopath as well as not suffering from PTSD and this also from a distance.

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    1. John Irving:

      Do you talk about your combat experiences with others? Do you write about them, boosting about how you've shot and killed women and children in combat?

      I once interviewed a Vietnam veteran for a school project and I was able to ask him just about any question about Vietnam, except about his combat experiences. When I asked other people about this, they told me that most soldiers don't talk about the men they've killed or the men they've watched get killed. I feel really sorry for the soldiers who suffer from PTSD but I also know that it is a normal human reaction to seeing (and sometimes engaging in) horrendous things.

      If you really are a former Special Forces member, I understand you may think I am attacking the military. I am not. I do think Chris Kyle was necessarily wrong to do the things he did in Iraq because I fully acknowledge that war zones are full of do or die situations.

      It is the fact that he boosts about it, considered Iraqis to be sub-human, and expressed desire to kill more. On top of that, he lied about his supposed assault on Jesse Ventura, so much so that the former governor is suing him, under orders from one of his former superiors I might add.

      As for calling Chris Kyle, not only do I believe that he wouldn't care to take my call, I doubt he would even listen to what I have to say. I'm just some punk blogger, while he has been on Fox News. You can call me a coward all you like, but I'm not taking your bait.

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  4. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/29/ex-seal-ventura-got-popped-after-popping-off.html?ESRC=dod_C.nl

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    1. From the article:

      One of her son's SEAL teammates introduced her to Ventura, whom she found offensive. She said she heard him criticize the war and called President George Bush a jerk. Ventura could only talk about himself, she said. "He did not say he was sorry for my loss."

      This does not even come close to what Chris Kyle said. Ventura has made no bones about his stance on the war but he has never, as far as I can tell, criticized the soldiers who fought in it.

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  5. You are a fool..the animals he killed in iraq were just that ANIMALS..and jesse ventura was never a navy seal yet he says he is.He was a UDT..and never saw combat in Vietnam..Jesse is a lying pos

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  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GZiksXVjGmQ

    This is what those who follow orders without question are like. Dude on the left says it all.

    Youre wasting your time man, these idiots would eat shit and say yumo if their peers told them it was good shit.

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